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AdaCamp was awesome. I wondered if I'd feel out of place since I'm not a coder, but there was a lot of discussion of open culture of various kinds. The opening session, unsurprisingly, was on impostor syndrome. I've conquered a lot of mine already, but it was still interesting. We did an exercise on identifying values we hold dear and figuring out how we've lived up to them. That didn't do much for me. What was interesting was seeing how many values on the list people have attributed to things I've done that seemed like no big deal to me. (Moving to Japan on a whim, for example. I didn't think of it as especially adventurous. It was just something to do.) I have a lot of values that I suppose I do think are important on some level but they don't spring to mind because I have no trouble living up to them. Here's a version of the worksheet we were using.

Even more interesting was the discussion on the mailing list before AdaCamp where tons of people confessed that they weren't sure why they'd been allowed in and they'd expected their applications to be rejected. (So let that be a lesson to any OTW people who didn't apply!) I was initially hesitant, but there was some mention of remix and fandom-y stuff, so I thought why the hell not. Something like 80% of applicants were accepted this time. For the DC one, they didn't even have enough qualified applicants. I imagine the number of applications will rise in the future and the percentage accepted fall, but 80% is pretty good odds. Go ahead and apply, people. (Though, sadly, they don't know when and where they'll be holding one next.)

Also on the mailing list, someone posted asking if other people were interested in fandom-y things. She commented that women have no trouble getting into various art forms and adapting to various online platforms but that this contrasts with our typical attitude towards getting into programming. I found this very interesting because many of her examples I completely agree with. (Tumblr, for example. Figuring out that broken-ass interface is not easy, but that hasn't slowed fandom down any.) But she mentioned video editing, and there I very much disagree: fans avoid getting into vidding all the time precisely because of the kind of impostor syndrome that keeps women away from programming and other technical skills. It's also time-consuming and potentially expensive and generally has higher barriers to entry than writing fic does, but I think insecurity over tech is probably the biggest one.

This was supposed to be a big meta post, but I'm hungry. So I get breakfast and you get a link to a n00b-friendly vidding tutorial.

Date: 2013-06-10 08:04 pm (UTC)
juniperphoenix: Fire in the shape of a bird (Default)
From: [personal profile] juniperphoenix
Ahaha. Yeah, so I totally impostor-syndromed myself out of applying, mostly because of the feminism question on the application (the extent of my Deep Thoughts on feminism being "it's a good thing"). I'll keep this in mind if the opportunity comes up again.

Definitely agreed re: tech insecurity posing an obstacle to potential vidders.

Date: 2013-06-10 09:20 pm (UTC)
sanguinity: woodcut by M.C. Escher, "Snakes" (Default)
From: [personal profile] sanguinity
There's also that technical hump you have to get over to lay your first few seconds of vid. I spent a good half-dozen hours reading that very same noob-friendly tutorial site before I understood enough to be able to begin laying clips into a timeline.

(And even then, I read one small thing backward and now am going to have to RECLIP EVERYTHING if I want to pick up that vid again.)

Overall, it's wholly manageable. But there's just enough front-loaded learning-the-tech-and-specs gruntwork to make one wonder if it's gonna be worth your while.

Date: 2013-06-11 07:34 am (UTC)
liviapenn: miss piggy bends jail bars (remains sexy while doing so) (Default)
From: [personal profile] liviapenn

But she mentioned video editing, and there I very much disagree: fans avoid getting into vidding all the time precisely because of the kind of impostor syndrome that keeps women away from programming and other technical skills. It's also time-consuming and potentially expensive and generally has higher barriers to entry than writing fic does, but I think insecurity over tech is probably the biggest one.

I think maybe this is true in our corner of, like, journal-based media fandom (and maybe some parts of AMV fandom) where there are so many super-technically-advanced vidders who talk a lot about the technical side of vidding, and vidding has a known history that we can trace back for decades, but I wonder if this is true in other areas (like youtube-based vidding fandom) where it seems like there is a lot more experimental, playful stuff going on from younger vidders-- I mean, search "crackvid" on youtube and you get *thousands* of search results. (admittedly by about the 30th page, the actual vids start being drowned out by other kinds of youtube content, but still, that's a lot, and just using one search term.) I think in some places vidding *is* seen as something that (like writing a fanfic) pretty much anyone is capable of doing, even if you're not a super genius.

Date: 2013-06-11 02:14 pm (UTC)
liviapenn: miss piggy bends jail bars (remains sexy while doing so) (Default)
From: [personal profile] liviapenn

Maybe more people are just deciding they could do that too. I still see a lot of people scared off by the tech (and jargon) barriers.

Well, but I think those tech barriers *are* actual barriers. Not everyone can afford a fast computer and/or expensive vidding software (or have the technical ability to torrent & crack the kind of software they need) or a dvd ripping program (and dvds to rip) or a fast enough & dependable enough internet connection to be able to download all the source you need in the right format.

I mean, I'm sure there are people who don't vid because they wrongly *think* they couldn't vault those barriers. But there are probably also people who don't vid because it literally is too difficult and expensive and time-consuming. I think if you gave everyone in fandom a free mega-fast computer and free copies of all the programs they might need, and pristine DRM-free digital copies of all their favorite source material, a lot of people might try and then give up because it's hard, but very few people would be like "I imagine that vidding is so hard, it probably takes an artistic genius to do it, so I'm not even going to TRY." (And I think that's why there's so many new vidders on Youtube-- because just the *existence* of youtube removes one giant barrier, the barrier of "you have to pay for lots of webspace and bandwidth in order to reliably host a vid in the long term," and removing just that *one* barrier means tons more vidders flooding in.)

Date: 2013-06-11 07:49 pm (UTC)
thirdblindmouse: Linda Keene finds the news shocking. (shocking news (Shall We Dance))
From: [personal profile] thirdblindmouse
I think a large part of the problem is unintentionally elitist talk about vidding. You don't need a degree in cinematography, music theory, color theory, or the theories underlying digital video to stick clips on a timeline to music, but it can feel that way when you read vidding how-to guides. I think the people who make guides tend to be the people deeply into vidding as an artform, who want to push themselves in all aspects of vidding, who want to help people make their vids look as good as possible, and who aren't thinking about how intimidating a process they are making it sound, because they don't find that kind of thing intimidating. Hell, they find it inspiring.

Date: 2013-06-11 06:30 pm (UTC)
ultrapeach: isabela raising her eyebrow (Isabela - eyebrow raise)
From: [personal profile] ultrapeach
Urg yes, I feel like an imposter with programming... even though it is what I am studying. :| But also, I feel like that with the mentioned 'various art forms'... less so, I suppose. Even when one is aware of it, it's hard to shake.

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