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Oops. I totally forgot the other thing I found interesting at the dead duck: Someone asked for more vids to include title cards. I rarely make these, and it's almost entirely because I am lazy. I did do some for my MediaWest DVDs because that show has no program and most people go away having little idea what they were watching or who it was by. Also, since I was doing a long block of vids myself, I could see where a longer pause or clearer credits would help the overall flow.

In the style of show done at con.txt, the vidder doesn't know where in the show their vid will fall or what it will be near, and the audience is often provided with a clear program listing exactly what's being shown, in what order, and who it's by. I usually feel presumptuous adding dead space to those shows with credits since the VJ will already be adding whatever pauses they want between vids.

On the other hand, if viewers are requesting title cards, maybe I should make more of an effort.



For me, as a viewer, I don't think title cards would have helped the con.txt show this year. I was in a good mood that night and enjoyed the show, but it felt quite weak to me. The vid I sent was something I did in a couple of days right before the deadline. I never felt like it completely gelled; rewatching it, I don't see specific errors I want to fix, but it doesn't move me, and I normally love rewatching my own work. I think the idea needed longer to percolate. I had two reasons for making and sending it: First, I dislike sending vids to cons if I think the audience has already seen them. Second, I wanted to show people that the show exists at all (i.e. it's a pimping vid, but not a hard sell one). I also made it a weaker vid by avoiding a lot of good material with female characters that would have fit the song better and that was more visually interesting because the con.txt show is slash only. (Though given how many people there ship all kinds of OT3s and other groups of characters, I should probably have just put the women in.) In retrospect, seeing the rest of the vids, I wish I had selected an older, stronger vid of mine instead of adding to the overall "meh" flavor of the show.

OK, so what was wrong with the show? For me, it wasn't just about the strength of individual vids but also show order (intentional), the number of vids total that felt similar to me with nothing to balance them (show order but unintentional), and the fact that the most common tone was more depressing or contemplative. I was in the con suite/noisy room. That would have been a great environment for big, funny, dumb, over-the-top vids. I was expecting a lot of noise and laughter, but the room was almost silent during most of the show. Since I enjoyed the con so much, it has risen up my list of deservingness of my vidding time and effort; next time, I will plan farther ahead and make something that is both a lot funnier and a lot better revised as the show deserved.

The vids:
First Half:
I Just Had Sex: I have now seen this vid approximately 1341341451541 times, but it remains funny. Everyone cackled at the Loki WTF faces, as usual. The sound wasn't up that loud, and I found that some of the jokes were getting swallowed in people laughing at the previous one. (I guess this would be an example of a vid that depends rather a lot on lyrics, though it's really the reactions that make it so funny.)

Your Spanish Lullaby: Ooh, Queen of Swords. This awesome vid shows how completely, totally GAY this show was. The show can try to pretend there was a male love interest all it wants: We know who was really doing it. I found the music choice a little bit jarring in terms of associations, but the sound worked well. Great editing. There was visible interlacing all over the place, but the footage quality was still much, much better than I've previously seen for Queen of Swords. (I'm assuming the interlacing was an unavoidable consequence of what footage is available, not vidder oversight.)

Games: My vid. With an aspect ratio problem. (100% vidder oversight.) Go me. I thought this was a weird placement. I'd have split up the similar-looking historical Spanish shows that most of the audience hadn't watched instead of putting them together.

It's Better to Have Loved: I recall this one getting huge applause, but it made very little impression on me. I guess it was a serious vid, and my interest in serious Sherlock vids is low at best.

Tonight (I'm Fucking You): LOL. I've seen this one a billion times too, but it's still funny. I have huge problems identifying POV in this vid. I had to see it dozens of times before I realized that, of course, the person shown on 'you' is the one being addressed, not the one singing. I think it's something about the facial expressions combined with the onset of lyrics that makes me think the first person I see must be the singer (or, well, the POV character). Maybe it's just me. It's not like it's hard to identify who's who logically by looking at lyric matches, but somehow I don't feel it.

No You Girls: I think this was the fun crossdressing vid? We played guess the fandom a lot with this one. It was nice. I think the song didn't grab me, but I'll have to look up what it actually was to be sure.

Castor's Sparkling Diamonds: I liked this one a lot. It had a lot of fabulous closeups of a scenery-chewing ham, which made it easy for me to get into despite never having seen the movie.

Sit Down By the Fire: Ah, my nemesis. Now knowing who Sebastian Stan is, I had a slightly easier time following this vid, but it still does nothing for me. (This is the one that every single person at VividCon other than me thought was the best thing ever. I'm the lone grouch. Ha ha ha.) I remain unable to tell whether some of the shots are of the same guy or not.

The Only Exception: Aww. This is a cute vid. I would have been more interested if I had seen the source or had not already seen the vid a bunch of times.

No, I Don't Remember: Very nice. Lost on me since I see X-Men First Class and go "Augh!", but it's a gorgeous vid.

Soldier: I liked this better but mostly had the same reaction I had at Escapade: This vid makes me very, very curious about what happens in the show, but I still can't get into the vid itself. I'll have to rewatch it after I've seen Haven and see what I think then. (I'm guessing I will be less "meh" and more with the slobbering all over the internet about how their love is True And Destined and OT3ful, but we shall see.) Certain People finally cornered me at con.txt and forced me to watch the scene that most struck me the first time I watched the vid. What do you know: it totally is exactly what it looked like! I wasn't sure since it goes by so fast in the vid and it seemed like a surprising plot development (I should know better given the genre of the show). Also, YES FINE OK, I obviously need to watch Haven.

The Homo Song: Given the concept of the lyrics, I was expecting a faster, bouncier, more upbeat song. It was cool to see femslash for a cartoon fandom as a change of pace in the show, but because I didn't like the song that much, I ended up feeling like the vid dragged after a while. It felt kind of repetitive, though it's possible what I was taking for repeats of the same scenes are actually different significant plot points in the source. It's a lot harder to tell different episodes of a cartoon apart if you haven't seen it.

Crush Story: Everyone loved this one. I think it's cute, but I haven't seen the show, and I don't have any investment in this relationship. By this point, I probably would have felt that most vids dragged anyway.

I Do the Dumbest Things for You: I don't like SGA very much, but Rodney is a great fit for this song. I was surprised how much I enjoyed this despite competition from that Doctor Who vid that I adore to the same song. Well done, vidder!


Second Half:
Whenever, wherever: Another one I've seen a number of times, but I love it, and it made a strong start to the second half. I could hear a lot of muttering going around the audience as we started to the effect of: "Twilight? Wait, did someone really...?" The "Team Edward/Jacob" text at the end got a big laugh.

Soccer Practice: I don't like SGA, and I've only seen the first season, but this was fucking awesome. Ridiculous song. Ridiculous reaction shots. Lots of different characters prancing around being ridiculous. I wish there had been more of this kind of thing in the show.

Whole New Way: I think everyone loved this one. It mainly reminded me that I need to see the second RDJ movie and that Sherlock fandom makes me want to throw myself under a bus, but that's not the fault of the vid. That's the impression that stuck with me, but rewatching, I now remember that the T-Rex got a big laugh, that I loved the music choice, and that this vid has some seriously awesome effects and uses of text. Lots of the text got a big laugh too. ("Gary Stu" ha ha ha.)

Deep: Augh, augh, Farscape torture vid. This was visually interesting and well done, but I felt like a little of it went a long way for me since I haven't seen the source. It's not that the vid dragged per se, but the most I was going to get out of it was that Farscape has angst and that creepy dude who reminds me of Voldo, and I could get that pretty quickly.

867-5309: Yuck. Hated the cover of this song. I was hoping for a funny crackvid. The fact that I stopped watching SPN in disgust ages ago makes me... not the most receptive audience for SPN vids.

In Shadow: Sorry, guys: I did not like this one. I once shipped Jack/Daniel like burning, but my memory of this vid is that it felt extremely slow and long at a point where I was already checking my watch. I can't remember it well enough to say more, and I'm too lazy to log into whatever site it's on to preview/download.

Do It Like a Dude: Yay! This is a fun vid. Again, it's one I've seen quite recently and remember well. Too bad I haven't seen the source, so it wasn't enough to re-involve me in the show and chase away my growing "meh" feeling. (If you're thinking there's a pattern where I always like talitha78's vids no matter how many times I've seen them, uh... duh?)

Jet Boy Jet Girl: I enjoyed this one but don't remember it. Someone commented that it seemed like it really required contextual knowledge, which I agree with, though I still got something out of it.

Boom: I was completely confused by this, as was most of the audience. It's a vid with a fairly specific concept, which it executes well, but not knowing that concept, I kept expecting it to be a pairing vid or to have a plot. However, it has big hair, gross violence, and 80s awfulness all over the place, so I was mostly going "Is that Terri Hatcher? LOLOLOLOL!" the whole time. Proof that sufficient EIGHTIES trumps everything else for me.

Kiss with a Fist: Yet another vid I've seen and remember well, mostly because of the hilarious comments at VVC. It's not a source I've seen or care about, but I like the vid.

Superman: Yuck, yuck, yuck. This music choice freaked out a bunch of people. I wasn't upset by it, but the beginning of the vid made me assume it was a campy crack parody, which it most certainly wasn't. It went on and on and on in the same dimly-lit sets in an incomprehensible muddle of things that were probably extremely moving and significant if you had the slightest idea who these two people were. All I know is that Self Destructive Jerkass mistreated The Girl a lot and then someone killed themselves and boy do I never, ever want to watch Queer As Folk. Sorry, vidder, but this was the wrong audience for this vid, and you got stuck at the end of a long and not very cheerful show.

The Test: The audience perked up for this one and even requested an encore after the show. It's a good vid. I wasn't as into it as everyone else.

Somewhere Out There: LOL. Adorable. Fandom, you are seriously testing my resolve not to watch any sitcoms. I hate sitcoms. Why are you doing this to me? This was a good choice to end on. I wish there had been more like this in the show overall.



So, yeah, boy do I wish I'd sent something much funnier and punchier to a source people knew, not half-baked prettiness to a song in Spanish. Next time, Gadget. Next time!

Date: 2012-06-19 03:19 am (UTC)
starlady: Raven on a MacBook (Default)
From: [personal profile] starlady
I'm always surprised that title/credits cards aren't more common. I mostly just add them on as still images at the end these days, but I definitely won't stop doing them (even though I would like to make them fancier/better edited into the flow of the vid).

Date: 2012-06-19 04:08 am (UTC)
shayheyred: (Default)
From: [personal profile] shayheyred
The ways of the Con.txt vidshow planners are mysterious to all. I've felt this since the first con.

Date: 2012-06-19 02:59 pm (UTC)
shayheyred: (Default)
From: [personal profile] shayheyred
Yay! Thanks.

Date: 2012-06-19 04:53 am (UTC)
hannah: (Default)
From: [personal profile] hannah
Two years ago, I led a drunken sing-along to the multifandom vid to "Birdhouse In Your Soul." We need more vids like that for shows like this.

Drunken sing-alongs should be a con staple. Seriously.

Date: 2012-06-19 05:30 am (UTC)
mresundance: (Paget Holmes/Watson)
From: [personal profile] mresundance
I always love your detailed, thoughtful commentaries on cons and vidshows. Proof that critical awareness can be done with the minimum of wank and maximum of actual thought.

It mainly reminded me that I need to see the second RDJ movie and that Sherlock fandom makes me want to throw myself under a bus, but that's not the fault of the vid.

MY WORK HERE IS DONE.

Date: 2012-06-22 01:53 am (UTC)
ignaz: icon by me, art by anne taintor (Default)
From: [personal profile] ignaz
I have to ask why Sherlock fandom makes you want to throw yourself under a bus, because I just saw the first episode and am really, REALLY intrigued, and I want to know if I should avoid participating in the fandom. (I'm not going to avoid the show itself.)

Also, hiiiiii, I'm glad you had fun at the con! I also prefer more big, noisy, funny vids in my vidshows.

Date: 2012-06-22 02:58 am (UTC)
ignaz: icon by me, art by anne taintor (Default)
From: [personal profile] ignaz
From my brief skimming of both show and fandom so far, this all makes perfect sense to me. Thanks for the explanation!

Date: 2012-06-19 10:15 am (UTC)
isis: (Default)
From: [personal profile] isis
Your review is rather confusing, since you don't mention the fandoms for the most part. So I am not sure what to take from this!

I remember the one con.txt I went to I enjoyed the vid show a lot, which surprised me because at the time I was totally not into vids!

Date: 2012-06-19 02:22 pm (UTC)
elynross: (Default)
From: [personal profile] elynross
Sandy H. was a fierce advocate for title cards at the beginning of vids, and I absolutely agree with her. It used to be standard, before posting vids online was the primary way of distribution, and there are (IMO) so many advantages to it.

1) It clearly sets your vid apart from what came before, and can serve as a visual palate cleanser for that.

2) It gives you an opportunity to set the tone and give additional information about how you want the viewer to "read" your vid -- not just by showing hey, this is the character this is about, but whether it's a character study, a relationship vid, a world vid, etc. Granted, you can also intentionally mislead your viewer (or unintentionally) by, for instance, having a cutesy title card when the vid itself is not really cutesy. On a pro scale, the initial credits for the Norton Hulk movie gave the audience everything they needed to know about the Hulk's story, so that actual movie time didn't have to be used, they could just move onward. And the Game of Thrones credit sequence gives clues as to what the episode is going to be dealing with.

3) Even if you have a program, if you have to fumble and try and look at it during the vidshow, then you potentially miss part of the vid. An initial title card can clearly let the viewer know the fandom, the vidder, and the song. Of course, if you don't want them to know that, then end credits make sense.

There's nothing wrong with end credits; I do hate it when vidders don't have credits at all. I think it's an assumption that hey, all the info you need is on the website/vid post, so why waste time with credits? But a lot of people download and don't watch immediately, and then may have no clue who even did a vid, let alone any other information. I think it's a valuable element of the vid that gives the vidder more flexibility and opportunity; Merryish's Numb3rs vid and Lum's Matrix vid that both used elements of the show's/movie's credits/style were an enjoyment in themselves.

Date: 2012-06-19 02:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] elynross
So, yeah, boy do I wish I'd sent something much funnier and punchier to a source people knew...

This is another thing that I think has been impacted by the online experience/people not going to as many cons. I don't think many newer vidders really consider the oldtime distinction between "con vids" and "living room vids". It's not that both can't be appreciated in either space, but having seen a LOT of vids pre-con, then at the con, for VVC, it's amazing how a vid that seems totally flat on your own can really go big in front of an audience -- often broader humor does this. And gorgeous, intricate vids may not play as well in a group, because the environment isn't as receptive, although those may be the vids people watch and enjoy more in a smaller setting.

Date: 2012-06-20 04:50 pm (UTC)
elynross: (Default)
From: [personal profile] elynross
No, not in my experience, but those are often the ones that go over big -- and I know lighter/funnier vids are especially appreciated at VVC, because they found that people tended to send their more "serious" vids, leading to premieres shows, particularly, that were kind of grim by the end.

Date: 2012-06-25 02:23 am (UTC)
zvi: self-portrait: short, fat, black dyke in bunny slippers (Default)
From: [personal profile] zvi
Coming in several days late to this, but I just wanted to say that I don't think con vids have to be light/funny, but they do need to be clear (both musically and in term's of the vid's internal logic) and accessible without canon knowledge. Even now when Avengers fever is sweeping live action English language journaling-based media fandom, there are people in our own scene who haven't seen the movie and don't know much about what happened in it. The days when one could assume that the audience at a multi-fandom vid show knows your canon well enough to follow a vid that's interacting with canon events are well past.

Honestly, I think part of the reason that funny vids go over well is because they tend to be done to songs where the singer enunciates a specific story clearly, so people know wwhat's going on because the song is telling them.

Date: 2012-06-20 02:53 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] deelaundry
Thank you for being kind about "Boom," which was my vid. It really needed a set-up of some kind, and I didn't provide one. Nonetheless, you got the core concept of the vid: LOL this awful 80s movie has a whole lot of (mostly unintentional) kinks in it, with bonus Teri Hatcher in teased hair and spangles. From the first time I saw it, Tango & Cash has always seemed like a gender-swapped Caged Heat.

Date: 2012-06-20 02:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] greenygal
Also, YES FINE OK, I obviously need to watch Haven.

*looks angelic*
*looks innocent*
*looks extremely unconvincing, given that she is smirking like a cat with a mouthful of canary feathers*

LmgXItBXzbZe

Date: 2013-02-02 10:31 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hello PauloIt's always nice to be able to write about our fegeinls. Although it is arguable I believe it's the ego's fault. The ego controls people mind by crating a need that one must feel important, beautiful. successful, meaningful and so one. The ego never has enough always needs more and more. This self-centered approach leads to nothing since you might be surrounded by all things but empty inside. Than you start looking for other ways to fill the void. Drugs, alcohol, sex and so on. This will be a never ending journey of self deception that leads nowhere. Now you need to go to the next step.You know what you don't want, what about what you really need and will lead you to happiness and fulfillment? Have a nice and productive journey to your soul.Paulo

Date: 2012-06-22 04:26 am (UTC)
talitha78: (white collar neal by surealitybites)
From: [personal profile] talitha78
Thank you for this epic writeup; it was a great read. I totally agree with you about POV in "Tonight I'm Fucking You". But it's a case where I had to balance POV-murkiness vs. more shots of Neal looking gorgeous. You can see which side won that battle. Glad you enjoy the vid in spite of its flaws. :)

Date: 2012-06-22 05:00 am (UTC)
morgandawn: (Cat Basket Going To Hell?)
From: [personal profile] morgandawn
LOL. The Superman QAF vid was not submitted (in fact the vidder would have never have submitted to Cont.txt as it was one of her earliest vids that she wished could travel back in time and play with the dinosaurs instead). But the Con.txt vid show is partially curated so this one was requested by the convention. She didn't even have a copy of the vid - they had to rip it off another convention DVD. Not that she's ashamed of the vid (pets pets poor vid), just....not her better effort.

Date: 2012-06-22 03:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] morgandawn
BTW, you may have chance to meet the vidder at the next SFBAS meeting in July. She works Sundays but is hoping to get the day off. Check out her later vids.

FiCPfmLUVcUWAfVScX

Date: 2013-01-31 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Sherri Busk - We adopted a llttie girl from China, who was born with only her right arm. She loves that she has something in common with an athlete. She is 6 years old now, and swims competitively against able bodied swimmers!

Date: 2012-06-25 02:07 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] elspethdixon
I think Soccer Practice and I do the Dumbest Things for You were my two favorites, even though I was never really in SGA fandom. McKay's ranty-face was perfect for the "Dumbest Things" song. Those, and the Middleman one. The Xavier/Magneto vid was very good, and very fitting for the characters, but also super-depressing. And I felt like should have been watching the torture-porn vid by myself in my bunk or something.

867-5309: Yuck. Hated the cover of this song. I was hoping for a funny crackvid.

IA - when I saw the initial "867-5309=CAS-TIEL" title card, I was hoping for a humor vid about all the times Dean bugs Castiel over the phone, and instead it was a weirdly dark vid that seemed like it was about Castiel abusing Dean.

The QaF vid to Eminem initially made me relieved that it wasn't to that mopey song by Five For Fighting, and then increasingly bored. I may be one of the few fangirls who doesn't dislike Eminem, but that song's probably one of the longest things by him that isn't "Stan," and it needed to be cut down to at least half that length. Even without the lyrics/musician and audience mismatch, the vid was way, way too long.

I once shipped Jack/Daniel like burning, but my memory of this vid is that it felt extremely slow and long

No slash vid show is complete without a long, slow Jack/Daniel vid to a slow, sappy song.

(I missed the Piratas vid, btw - I need to look it up online and watch it)
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